Dear Sir,
Can anyone provide me the ebook : NFPA - Fire Protection Handbook
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Lakshit
Dear Sir,
Can anyone provide me the ebook : NFPA - Fire Protection Handbook
Regards
Lakshit
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The link provided by you does not open. And secondly, from the subject it seems that it is the Fire Protection Code and not the NFPA Fire Protection Handbook.
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Alexi Zorba, please check the link:
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Alexi Zorba, welcome to the Petroleum Community Forum.
I will share with you some thoughts that might help you decide it the NFPA Certification is valuable.
Let's say that you live in a country that has its own fire codes and the NFPA codes are hardly used. NFPA certification could not be valuable to you. But suppose that you start working for a company that designs fire protection systems for overseas customers who demand the use of the NFPA codes. Or you could find a job in another country where those codes are usually consulted. In both cases you may change your mind and think that NFPA certification is convenient to your career development. I could give you more examples but I think that the message is clear: it depends on your professional needs.
You asked if I think that such kind of certificate is valuable and I answer: Yes. And I have also met people certified. By the way, I recall having stumbled upon a Spanish-language site that listed the names of people certified in America (North, Central and South), grouped by country.
I invite other forum members to share their views about NFPA certification.
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NFPA 13: Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, 2007 Edition
(or) NFPA 13: Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, 2010 Edition
Iam in need of this above standard
Kindly do the needful and provide the downloadable link pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee
hi !
my first post on PCF.
........ sorry for my english.
I think this is try of NFPA to be like ie. VdS .
Example1: VdS have rules for sprinkler design VdS CEA 4001 - Richtlinien für Sprinkleranlagen and NFPA have they own code NFPA13.
But VdS have also Lists of VdS-approved Products, Companies and Experts who may use VdS mark. Does NFPA have same?
Example2: NFPA13 says that sprinkler equipment must be approved according local authorities, but VdS requests that sprinkler equipment must be approved according VdS.
If I make desing for sprinkler acc. FM rules, it is obligatory that equipment have FM certificate , not NFPA.
If I make desing for sprinkler acc. NFPA13 it is usualy that equipment have FM /UL certificate.
Example3: Most of sprinkler equipment of any global players have certificates VdS and FM / UL not NFPA, ie. see MINIMAX ([link Point to another website Only the registered members can access]
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In my country both standards for sprinkler design have same value. At first Investor have right to choose according which standard design will be made, as input condition for designer(s), because insurance company which will have contract with investor for insurance of building, will send own expert for commisioning of installation.
Authorities in my country will never say that design for sprinkler must be done according VdS or NFPA or even national standard ( = copy of CEA or BS or TRVB or ... ) because my country is not jet in European Union).
This is my point of view.
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Zaconja,
NFPA is not at all like VdS.
NFPA standards describe "How to install", not "How to Certify" a product. Many years ago the NFPA standards used the term "...equipment must be UL Listed...". As more and more companies became capable of performing "Product Safety Testing" on fire protection equipment, the term in NFPA standards changed to "...equipment must be NRTL Listed..." (NRTL = Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory). As the term "NRTL Listed" is more of a North American term than a global term, the NFPA standards made yet another change to "...approved by local authorities...". Now NFPA can market their standard to a global audience.
To address your first question in example 1, NFPA doesn't endorse any specific testing agency except to say "...acceptable to the local authority...", who could be anyone endorsed by the local government. Determining who is a qualified agency for performing product safety testing is a job for a governmental body. In the US, OSHA is that governing body. The OSHA[link Point to another website Only the registered members can access]
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The other 12 companies that OSHA indicates as being NRTL's in the US, including TUV, are not accredited by OSHA to perform testing of fire panels, as none of them list the ANSI standard "UL 864", as one of the many "Product Safety Testing Standards" OSHA has accredited them to test to.
In you're example 2, VdS is the "Local Authority", to what ever governmental body has given them the authority to be. With regard to FM, the only facilities in the US which must comply and us FM approved equipment, are facilities underwritten by FM. If your company is underwritten by FM, they'll want you to use all FM approved equipment and follow their design guidelines for its installation. If you don't like their insurance rates, or their forcing you to use FM approved equipment and design guidelines you disapprove of, use a different underwriter for your insurance. Again...its only obligatory, if FM is underwriting your facility.
In you're example 3, the reason nobody has NFPA certified equipment is because NFPA 13, 72 and a number of other standards aren't "Product Safety Testing Standards" nor is NFPA a certifying agency (note: some NFPA standards are testing standards).
I'm not sure what country you are in, but most countries have their own laws and standards. What will often happen, is that a company will follow the local codes, and than add to the design and installation of systems and equipment, other standards that are more restrictive, such as those found in the EU or US.
I hope this helps.
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Sorry...I intended to include the NFPA 13 links...see below:
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