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    Wink pipe diameter

    I need to calculate pipe diameter for natural gas pipe line as the following details

    Flow rate : 37000 m3/h (at 0.00 g)
    presure : 7 bar
    Gas temperatueer : 20 C
    pipe length : 6000 m
    pipe type : steel

    thanks in avance

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    Thank You

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  4. You need to use PIPESIM 2003 whose link in available on this forum to find the optimum size...

    It depends how much you need pressure at the end!!! and how is the pipeline layed? buried or non-buried?, how is the pipeline elevation profile, how much is the ambient temp,...etc

    If you still have problem, get back to me

  5. you can use olga 2000 for simulation and you need pvtsim for use the table fluid

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    if you are doing according to ASME then refer ansi B31.2 where you can find formula for pipe thickness calculation....

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    Any way you can get the outer diameter of the pipe from the vendor or you can take the diameter of the nozzle of the tanK or pressure vessel....Then you can place your tappings or reducers or any other components according to your distribution and pressure you require at the end...

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    Well firstly, Pipe diameter are depends on Flowrate, Velocity, Compressibility, temperature and Pressure. Here is the equation/formula that i ussualy use for pipe sizing calculation. But the most important thing is that you have to design the velocity. (velocity limitation : below acceptable noise levels, it's about 60 to 80 ft/sec and if the gas contains liquids we have to refer to API RP 14 E which is the minimum velocity should be limited to about 10 ft/sec).


    V = 1440 * Z * Q * T / ( d * d * P )
    Where V =velocity ft/sec
    Z = compressibility (ussualy 0.94)
    Q = Flowrate, million cu. ft/hr
    T = temperature, R
    d = inside diameter of pipe, inch
    P = operating pressure, Psia

    Good luck ^_^

  10. #8
    Well firstly, Pipe diameter are depends on Flowrate, Velocity, Compressibility, temperature and Pressure. Here is the equation/formula that i ussualy use for pipe sizing calculation. But the most important thing is that you have to design the velocity. (velocity limitation : below acceptable noise levels, it's about 60 to 80 ft/sec and if the gas contains liquids we have to refer to API RP 14 E which is the minimum velocity should be limited to about 10 ft/sec).


    V = 1440 * Z * Q * T / ( d * d * P )
    Where V =velocity ft/sec
    Z = compressibility (ussualy 0.94)
    Q = Flowrate, million cu. ft/hr
    T = temperature, R
    d = inside diameter of pipe, inch
    P = operating pressure, Psia

    Good luck ^_^

  11. Quote Originally Posted by WAT View Post
    I need to calculate pipe diameter for natural gas pipe line as the following details

    Flow rate : 37000 m3/h (at 0.00 g)
    presure : 7 bar
    Gas temperatueer : 20 C
    pipe length : 6000 m
    pipe type : steel

    thanks in avance
    Usa la eucaci&#243;n de Wymouth que es:qsc=433.9*[tsc/psc]*[[p1^2-p2^2]*d^5.333/[s*L*Tm*Zm]]^0.5=433.9*(536.67/14.7)*((101.55^2-14.7^2)*d^5.333*0.9/(0.9*3.73*527*0.94))^0.5*Eficiencia de tuber&#237;a.
    s=gravedad espedifica densidad/densidad del aire
    Zm0 factor de compresibilidd 0.94 t&#237;pico, Tm temperatura promedio °R de la tuber&#237;a,tsc temperatura a condiciones estandar °R, psc psia, presi&#243;n a condiciones estandard, L longitud de tuber&#237;a millas,p1 presi&#243;n de entrada, p2 presion de salida de la tuber&#237;a.
    d diametro interno de tuber&#237;a in, d= 12.8 in, debes encontrarlos datos correctos, como gravedad espec&#237;fica, t de entrada y salida, presion de entrada y salida, puedes usar Pandhandle, A o B y te dar&#225; el di&#225;metro interior de la tuber&#237;a

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Guillermo Culebro Nieves View Post
    Usa la eucaci&#243;n de Wymouth que es:qsc=433.9*[tsc/psc]*[[p1^2-p2^2]*d^5.333/[s*L*Tm*Zm]]^0.5=433.9*(536.67/14.7)*((101.55^2-14.7^2)*d^5.333*0.9/(0.9*3.73*527*0.94))^0.5*Eficiencia de tuber&#237;a.
    s=gravedad espedifica densidad/densidad del aire
    Zm0 factor de compresibilidd 0.94 t&#237;pico, Tm temperatura promedio °R de la tuber&#237;a,tsc temperatura a condiciones estandar °R, psc psia, presi&#243;n a condiciones estandard, L longitud de tuber&#237;a millas,p1 presi&#243;n de entrada, p2 presion de salida de la tuber&#237;a.
    d diametro interno de tuber&#237;a in, d= 12.8 in, debes encontrarlos datos correctos, como gravedad espec&#237;fica, t de entrada y salida, presion de entrada y salida, puedes usar Pandhandle, A o B y te dar&#225; el di&#225;metro interior de la tuber&#237;a
    qsc
    ft^3/dia, ese dato es 31359427(37000m^3/h)

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