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  1. #349

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    yes,
    the comments are interesting and I fully agree,
    specifically for that mentioning some "unusual" phase diagram generated by extended EOS versions,
    I have had a similar experience but the reason was some strange values for BIPs (I presume extended EOS should use a specific set of BIPs)

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  3. #350

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    I have compared gas and liquid densities calculated by PRODE extended EOS with some values from NIST,
    for several fluids as C3, C5, ammonia etc.
    differences are usually within 2-4%

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  5. #351

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    mderra,
    my results confirm your observations,
    the differences in liquid densities are (usually) lower than 3-5% outside critical area,
    in critical area differences may be larger for mixtures,
    take care to define correct BIPs (kij for EOS)
    or set BIPs to 0 for mixtures such as hydrocarbons.

  6. #352

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    may I add custom units in PRODE PROPERTIES ?
    There is the description of the methods available in documentation but I would need an example.

  7. Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    cmarc,
    you can add custom units after std. units,
    to add a custom unit use the method
    UMAU(k1,k2,"unit",code)
    where k1, k2 are the conversion constants (see the manual)
    "unit" is the string to identify the unit as "M3/Kg" etc
    code is the code for that unit

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  9. #354

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    cmarc,
    as suggested by rense you can add custom units in PRODE PROPERTIES,
    for example to add Nm3/h (which is not included in gas flow units)
    I do

    k= mw * 0.00001239;
    UMAU(k,0.0,"NM3/h",CONV_UM_WG)

    where k is the conversion factor calculated from density at normal conditions

    in the same way you can add units for SM3/h , SCF/h etc.

    the main advantage with this method is that you can easily customize the interface with your own (standard and normal) units which may be different in different countries (in Europe normal and standard temperatures can change)

  10. #355

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    That's great software.......

  11. #356

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    mderra & carlo.stenali,
    for liquid densities of polar fluids as water, ammonia etc.
    the values predicted by Extended EOS are more accurate than Peneloux method,
    however on derivatives of compressibilities (i.e. isothermal compressibility)
    errors are quite large,
    just to mention this.

  12. #357

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    yes,
    on derivatives of volume vs. pressure the errors are high for polar fluids,
    however we do need usually absolute values (i.e. volumes, densities etc.)
    not the derivatives,
    for those a better model should be BWR or some related.

  13. #358

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    could you please explain how to add custom unit SM3/DAY unit for a gas flow?

  14. #359

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    abarre,
    it's very easy to add new units to PRODE PROPERTIES,
    you would utilize the method UMAU() to add new units,
    see the description in the operating manual,

    'http://www.prode.com/docs/pppman.pdf'

    you need the define conversion factor, the name of the unit "SM3/Day" and the property (gas flow)

    since you need a value at standard condition you can calculate the conversion factor from molar weight

    UMAU(mw*1.175E-7,0,"SM3/Day",UM_WG)

    where the first parameter mw*1.175E-7 defines the conversion factor
    the second value is 0 as values start from 0
    the third is the name for the unit
    and the last is the property (gas flow),
    see the operating manual for the numeric code of each property

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  16. #360

    Re: Excel library for process calc's including distillation

    thanks Carlo,
    nice information,
    for hours instead of days should I only change the constant?

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